This week in science: California wolves, the world's bugs, and the earliest quasars
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BARBER: Yeah, that's right. So Neil Carter, who studies wolves at the University of Michigan, says this study, which he wasn't involved with, underscores how complicated it is for carnivores to come back to places that have fundamentally changed.

NEIL CARTER: If you want to have these animals on the landscape, you know, you have to start kind of building back the full ecosystem.

ROTT: Which in California would mean boosting mule deer populations, which are currently declining because of habitat loss, boosting other game species like elk that the wolves can eat. And look, that's not something that could happen overnight, but I think this study does give the people that manage wildlife and want to see fewer conflicts between wolves and humans something to think about and to aim for.

DETROW: Nate Rott and Regina Barber from NPR's science podcast Short Wave - thanks as always.

BARBER: Thank you.

DETROW: Yeah, thank you.

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