Where are Iran and Ukraine wars headed after NATO summit?
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By Mary Louise Kelly, Hadeel Al-Shalchi, Tom Bowman

Thursday, July 9, 2026 • 4:01 PM EDT

Heard on All Things Considered Transcript
MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

Wars in Ukraine and Iran dominated the agenda as President Trump met with NATO allies this week in Turkey, and there were important developments on both fronts, even if there weren't any dramatic breakthroughs. So what did we learn this week about where either conflict is headed? I discussed that with NPR Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman and our new Istanbul correspondent Hadeel Al-Shalchi. We were speaking on NPR's national security podcast Sources & Methods.

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KELLY: Tom, let's go to Ukraine. There were some developments, including a big one, the U.S. saying Ukraine will be allowed to manufacture Patriot air defense systems. That's a big deal. Just explain why.

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